There is no doubt that was not a real debate, but yes, an actual commercial for the
BTW: I say "for the most part" because Ron Paul was the only Republican old enough and ornery enough to tell the Tea Party to fuck off when it comes to some of his views, such as gay marriage. In his world, the government has no right to impose its (meaning the Republican Right) views on marriage on him and he would never impose his views of marriage on others. Like Lawrence O'Donnell, I agree that the longest Mr. Paul remains in the race, at least some truths will get out there.
So back to the debate:
In a word, it was bullshit.
Gosh, it feels good to write, 'bullshit' and know that no one can censor me by bleeping out the 'shit' part like they do on TV. *rolls eyes*
Some of the clues to its being nothing more than a commercial could be the chosen location; St. Anselm College - a private (as in CHARTER) catholic school. Why is that proof? Well, it's well known that one of the
Another clue was in Tim Pawlenty. A good many people, including the left wingers (of which I'm one, but one who isn't in agreement) saw Pawlenty's pale, lackluster response to why he didn't use "Obamy Care" during the debate - as he'd bravely done the previous Sunday - as a "Just in case" move (as in, "...just in case Romney wins the nomination and then I could be his VP candidate") but come on, it wasn't a real debate, therefore, the gloves were on all night. If you play the debate (highlight 'debate' for a link to a video of the evening) over and over again, you'll see there's very little in-fighting, very few disagreements - but loads of head nodding and the usual repetitive, pedantic
"Every time the liberals get into office, they pass an omnibus bill of big spending projects. What we need to do is pass the mother of all repeal bills, but it's the repeal bill that will get a job killing regulations. And I would begin with the EPA, because there is no other agency like the EPA. It should really be renamed the job-killing organization of America."
Oh, yeah, Michelle, damn that EPA and its stopping pollution by actually investigating huge corporations who have been poisoning us for years. *rolls eyes again - something I did throughout the
So Michelle, what were you really saying? Were you saying that health be damned, environment be damned, cancer be damned in children, because thanks to the EPA, big business sent their business to third world countries where they can do ANYTHING they want in order to get their products made? Were you saying that now, those businesses can pay as little as they want to their
"Go Michelle," she said without any enthusiasm whatsoever. "Go soak your head in an educational bucket," she added with great enthusiasm.
As you can see, there's a good reason why Michelle is the chairman of the Tea Party Caucus in the House of Representatives.
In conclusion, any real discussion of who won or lost that particular debate is simply wasted words because no one wins or loses in a commercial - it's only later, like January, 2013, when we're watching either a Democrat or Republican taking the oath of office, that we'll know if this commercial worked.
Republican Americans, it's up to you now. Are you going to allow the rich, right wing control your representatives to the point that they don't dare speak up and stand for their real politics? Are you going to continue to vote against your own best interests because you love the rhetoric, or are you going to stand up and say "NO" to the Tea Party, a movement that's nothing more than a facade which uses all the right words but in reality (as the residents of Wisconsin and other states with new Republican Governors), intends to send us all back to a time before people CARED about each other.